tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445269723137820164.post1574170581455496785..comments2008-09-18T02:56:29.917-07:00Comments on Ux Unleashed: Crtl + F in MS-OutlookSunil Shindehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12223421848697871761noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445269723137820164.post-47051829708974565582008-09-18T02:56:00.000-07:002008-09-18T02:56:00.000-07:002008-09-18T02:56:00.000-07:00Sunil, you make no sense, the author is correct.Ou...Sunil, you make no sense, the author is correct.<BR/><BR/>Outlook is in no way "Too broad a scope", it's an email application. On an average day in the office, I use it to do a massive 2 tasks - write a new email or reply to an existing one - hundreds of times a day.<BR/><BR/>It's bad enough that Ctrl+F doesn't do a find, and that you can't seem to remap it like you can in e.g. Visual Studio, without it doing <B>different functions</B> in the same app. Crap user interface design, no excuses.Davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01097897940353643445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445269723137820164.post-22514141795795824942008-05-09T17:36:00.000-07:002008-05-09T17:36:00.000-07:002008-05-09T17:36:00.000-07:00Ctrl-F behavior in outlook is maddening. Rationali...Ctrl-F behavior in outlook is maddening. Rationalize it however you want. But it's inconsistent with the rest of the world and that makes it a very stupid choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445269723137820164.post-80623363283888721072007-08-24T00:17:00.000-07:002007-08-24T00:17:00.000-07:002007-08-24T00:17:00.000-07:00Application is too broad a scope. I would stay wit...Application is too broad a scope. I would stay with context. <BR/><BR/>Mailbox as the selected item Vs Mail each as individuals should define indivisual and relevant experiences.Sunil Shindehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12223421848697871761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445269723137820164.post-35873666950381549452007-08-23T23:56:00.000-07:002007-08-23T23:56:00.000-07:002007-08-23T23:56:00.000-07:00Sunil, I agree with you that in this application, ...Sunil, I agree with you that in this application, forward function is used more than find function.<BR/><BR/>But within one application, a shortcut should perform one function. If we are using Ctrl + F for forwarding then it should always do the same irrespective of where we are performing the function. In MS outlook, Ctrl+F is for forwarding the mails, then the functions its performing should not be changed again and again. Otherwise its can be difficult for a user to figure out what Ctrl+ F is going to perform. <BR/><BR/>According to me, to be consistent in one application a shortcut should perform only one function.Upma_Sharmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04611771464786589234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445269723137820164.post-56911595879721013762007-08-23T01:09:00.000-07:002007-08-23T01:09:00.000-07:002007-08-23T01:09:00.000-07:00Here is another way to look at the problem. Lets s...Here is another way to look at the problem. Lets say you were building an offline blog writer (like http://get.live.com/betas/writer_betas)<BR/><BR/>Would you map the CTRL - P to print or publish?Sunil Shindehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12223421848697871761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445269723137820164.post-59067290125550975282007-08-22T13:22:00.000-07:002007-08-22T13:22:00.000-07:002007-08-22T13:22:00.000-07:00Consitency is a component of a usable interface. S...Consitency is a component of a usable interface. So is relevance.<BR/><BR/>1. For an email, CTRL-F is mapped to the "fordwarding" action. This action is much more relevant than searching. I mean how many times do you end up searching 'inside' an email? <BR/><BR/>2. Searching within a document or spreadsheet or web page is a common usage. <BR/><BR/>Hence CTRL-F being mapped to Find is accurate. <BR/><BR/><BR/>3. It is important to understand the three scenarios that you are calling inconsistent<BR/><BR/>(a) When you click on the Mailbox, you are performing action on a collection of documents (emails, appointments, tasks, reminders) and search is relevant<BR/><BR/>(b) When you click on the inbox, notice this very carefully, two things happen in rapid succession. The inbox gets the focus and then the focus is transferred to a mail inside it. So the live object is an email and hence CTRL-F instantiates a forward. Which is absolutely how it should be.<BR/><BR/>(c) I could not validate the third scenario (Search pop up in a new mail window. So no comments)<BR/><BR/>Ergo, I do not consider this to inconsistency.<BR/><BR/>(BTW, The F in CTRL-F seemed correct as the usage of the word FIND was much more prevanent than SEARCHbut then it is too much of a muscle memory to try and change it)Sunil Shindehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12223421848697871761noreply@blogger.com